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		<description><![CDATA[Epigraphy transmits to us traces of the existence of people, more or less famous, all of which are of historical interest. Knowing these people sustains prosopographical and consequently historical studies. This post is an invitation to an online public discussion between researchers aware of the historical challenges and the methodological problems related to digital practices. For the moment it is written in English, German and Italian. It will be soon in French too. Acknowledgments: Gabriel Bodard, Anja Bush, Erica Filippini, Christiane Nowak for their [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">Epigraphy transmits to us traces of the existence of people, more or less famous, all of which are of historical interest. Knowing these people sustains prosopographical and consequently historical studies. This post is an invitation to an online public discussion between researchers aware of the historical challenges and the methodological problems related to digital practices. For the moment it is written in English, German and Italian. It will be soon in French too. Acknowledgments: Gabriel Bodard, Anja Bush, Erica Filippini, Christiane Nowak for their reading, correction and translation.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a title="ENGLISH" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#english" target="_self">English</a> &#8211; <a title="DEUTSCH" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#deutsch" target="_self">Deutsch</a> &#8211; <a title="ITALIANO" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#italiano" target="_self">Italiano</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><strong><a> ENGLISH </strong></span> &#8211; <a title="Introduction" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#en_introduction">introduction</a>- <a title="Questions" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#en_questions">questions</a> &#8211; go to comments<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><a>Introduction </span>:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">I am currently working on the Res Gestae Divi Augusti and the digital representation of the family relationships of persons cited in this Augustan text. My opinion is that the elaboration of methodological perspectives in the Digital Humanities and in the Humanities must involve humanities academics. Their function is essential. For the historical disciplines this function is occupied by the historians, enhanced by their own specialization, if there is one. Their conception of their own discipline is the starting point of the digital analysis and representation.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">From these premises, it would help if you could try to answer to the following questions. These are not easy questions. I am particularly interested in methodological reflections and even epistemological considerations on these questions, addressing the nature of our disciplines as well as simply offering tool suggestions, with eventual usable examples for computer science.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><a>Questions </span>:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(1) Methodological questions:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">- What is the use made by historians of prosopographical and genealogical information?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">- Consequently which questions could be formulated to prosopographical and genealogical data?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(2) What are the limits of a traditional paper edition?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">e. g.: representing all the relationships inside a tree is impossible due to the limited space of the paper surface. Consequently, it could be necessary to represent only one point of view, to make abstractions of some characters and to create complementary trees.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(3) Traditional bibliography:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">In your opinion, what would be the most representative work of prosopography?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">One bibliographical reference would be enough. It should represent what is, for you, the activity and the work made by the historian on prosopografical and genealogical data to serve a historical purpose. I would kindly ask you also to cite your bibliographical reference even if others had already cited it in their comments. Eventually, a bibliographical reference about Roman history, maybe referred to consuls, would be preferred.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(4) What does your imagination suggest to you when the question of the use of Information Technology for prosopography is raised?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">This online discussion and interaction will help to formalize the familial and social relationships between the consuls of Rome. Your participation through this blog is public. Please forward this discussion to your contacts that could be interested in participating in it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">Many thanks!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a title="ENGLISH" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#english" target="_self">English</a>: <a title="English Introduction" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#en_introduction" target="_self">introduction</a> &#8211; <a title="English questions" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#en_questions">questions</a> &#8211; comments</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a title="DEUTSCH" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#deutsch" target="_self">Deutsch</a> &#8211; <a title="ITALIANO" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#italiano" target="_self">Italiano</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><strong><a title="DEUTSCH" name="deutsch" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#deutsch">DEUTSCH</strong> &#8211; <a href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#worum">Worum geht es?</a> &#8211; <a href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#Fragen">Fragen</a> &#8211; Kommentar</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a>Worum geht es?</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">Um ueber historische Forschung und Methoden in den “Digital Humanities” zu arbeiten, sollte man die Funktion des Geistenwissenschaftlers und in unserem Falle des Historikers in keinster Weise unterschaetzen. Ganz im Gegenteil nimmt sie eine essentielle Stellung in der bisher noch jungen Disziplin der “Digital humanitiers” ein.<br />
Daher waere es fuer meine Arbeit essentiell, wenn moeglichst viele Geisteswissenschaftler auf die folgenden drei Fragen antworten koennten.<br />
Es sind keine leichten Fragen, da sie Reflexionen auf einem epistomologischen und historiografischen Niveau verlangen. Die gewuenschten Antworten sollten synthetisierend und praezise zugleich sei, wenn moeglich mit konkreten historischen Beispielen, die durch digitale Datenverarbeitung sinnvoll geloest werden koennten.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a>Fragen</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(1) Was macht ein Historiker mit prosopografischen Daten und Genealogien? Welchen Fragen kann man an diese Daten stellen und mit welchem Ziel?<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(2) Welche Grenzen sind Papiereditionen inhaerend? (z.B. fehlender Platz um Genealogiebaeume vollstaendig auf einem Papier zu raepresentieren oder die daraus folgende Konsequenz Abstraktionen zu den Personen anzustellen und damit einen subjektiven Blickwinkel anzulegen etc.).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(3) Sehr hilfreich ware ausserdem eine Literaturangabe (Monografie, Artikel, Lemma), die jenseits einer einfachen Aufzaehlung von Daten, raepresentativ fuer die Arbeit eines Historikers, der ueber prosopografische und genealogische Daten arbeitet, ist. Dabei kann es sich um eine Fussnote zu irgendeinem prosopografischen Themengebiet handeln; es waere ausreichend, dass die prosopografischen und genealogischen Daten die Argumentation der Arbeit bestimmen. Natuerlich bliebe es einfacher fuer mich, wenn es sich um roemische Prosopografie handeln wuerde, optimaler weise mit einer Verbindung zu Konsuln.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">There is a fourth question, that I write for the moment in English, as i could not translate it in German:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(4) Which used of Information Technologies your imagination suggests you when it comes to prosopography?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">This interaction with you will help me to formalize family and social relationship. Your participation is public as this blog is. Vielen Dank!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">Please forward this discussion to your contacts that could be interested in participating in it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#deutsch">Deutsch</a>: <a href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#worum">Worum geht es?</a> &#8211; <a href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#Fragen">Fragen</a> &#8211; Kommentar</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a title="ITALIANO" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#italiano" target="_self">Italiano </a>- <a title="ENGLISH" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#english" target="_self">English</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><strong><a>ITALIANO </strong> &#8211; <a title="Introduzione" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#introduzione" target="_self">introduzione </a>- <a title="Domande" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#domande" target="_self">domande </a>- commenti</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">L&#8217;epigrafia ci trasmette trace dell&#8217;esistenza di personaggi, più o meno famosi, che vanno poi a nutrire gli studi di prosopografia e conseguentemente di storia. Questo post è un invito ad una discussione pubblica in rete tra attori della ricerca su problemi di metodologia storica e digitale. È per il momento scritto in italiano e in tedesco. Lo sarà prossimamente in inglese e in francese. Many thanks to Anja Bush, Erica Filippini, Christiane Nowak for their reading and translation.<!--[if gte vml 1]&gt;                    &lt;![endif]--><!--[if !vml]--><!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a>Introduzione </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">Attualmente sto lavorando sulle Res Gestae Divi Augusti e sulla rappresentazione digitale dei legami familiari. La mia opinione è la seguente: l&#8217;eleborazione di nuove prospettive metodologiche nell’ambito delle Digital Humanities impone di coinvolgere la figura dell’umanista. La sua funzione è essenziale. Per le discipline storiche sono gli storici che, con le proprie specializzazioni, occupano questa funzione essenziale. La loro concezione della propria disciplina è il punto di partenza della rappresentazione digitale.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">Date queste premesse, sarebbe opportuno che la maggior parte di voi provasse a rispondere alle domande che seguono. Non sono domande facili perché richiedono riflessioni di carattere epistemologico e storiografico, in modo tale da fornire risposte nel contempo sintetiche e precise, eventualmente corredate da esempi fruibili in ambito informatico.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a> Domande </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(1) Quesito metodologico: in che modo uno storico utilizza le informazioni prosopografiche e genealogiche? Quali domande potrebbero essere formulate in relazione a questa tipologia di dati? E con quali finalità?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(2) Quali limiti si incontrano nell’utilizzo di un’edizione cartacea? (es.: impossibilità di rappresentare tutti i legami all’interno di alberi genealogici e conseguente necessità di dovere procedere all&#8217;astrazione di alcuni personaggi; limiti di spazio derivati dal supporto cartaceo…)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(3) Quale potrebbe essere un riferimento bibliografico rappresentativo delle attività svolte dallo storico sui dati prosopografici e genealogici, al di là della semplice raccolta di informazioni?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">Vi chiedo cortesemnete di segnalare il vostro riferimento bibliografico anche qualora altri lo avessero già riportato nel loro commento. Se possibile, si preferiscono riferimenti bibliografici relativi a studi di prosopografia romana, eventualmente consolare.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">(4) Cosa vi suggerisce la vostra immaginazione quando si discute dell&#8217;utilizzo di nuove tecnologie per la prosopografia?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB">Questa interazione aiuterà a formalizzare le relazioni familiari e sociali. La vostra participazione attraverso questo blog è pubblica. Grazie.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a title="ITALIANO" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#italiano" target="_self">Italiano</a>: <a href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#introduzione">introduzione</a> &#8211; <a title="Domande" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#domande" target="_self">domande </a>- commenti</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify"><span style="color: black" lang="EN-GB"><a title="DEUTSCH" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#deutsch" target="_self">Deutsch</a> &#8211; <a title="ENGLISH" href="http://eer.hypotheses.org/145#english" target="_self">English</a></span></p>
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